Hang Gliding XC League

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:12 pm

It looks like Alan Westmoreland has his sights set on more silverware as he's overtaken Gary Stenhouse in the XC League

Mind you it hasn't been great this year as the only real XC over the back has been Wendy Patterson the rest of the flights logged are all on the ridge.

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:34 pm

ah now then is this not rue that you can only use one ridge run on the coast on the same day?

that is i beleive used to be the rules to save people doing multiple ridge runs on the same day. over the back was diferant?

that then makes the scores slightly diferan

cheers gary default

Post by **colin keightley** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:30 pm

Is that still the case as the league was simplified so you could simply check and see who was winning with ease.

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:51 pm

Is that still the case as the league was simplified so you could simply check and see who was winning with ease.

That about sums it up Colin. I think what Gary refers to was from the old regime. To be honest if a pilot wants to fly up and down the coast and log all the flights from the same day I can't see the problem others can also do the same so it's a level playing field. A flight is a flight at the end of the day.

We might have a fight on and I can even see a Mr Freeman doing a couple of good ones to beat them both.

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:46 am

fair enough like you say wendy is the only one who done a proper xc over the back. but at least the xc league is not going to be won on the night after no submisions, then the first person to say they done 3k won the prize. still its a lot of fun and very tight so you never know what might hapen

cheers gary

Misk · Post by **Misk** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:54 am

It's Easterly today Gary - Rub some washing up liquid over your leading edge, it stops the water droplets building up on the surface when it rains...................

Dave Hume · Post by **Dave Hume** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:19 am

Unfortunately my GPS battery was flat on Saturday so I can't put my flight in, though Brian has accepted it (with witnesses) for the team comp. I didn't go quite as far as Alan, just to Foxholes, but I did it twice so if we're on OLC scoring now it would have scored more.

Are we into winter league rules from 1st October?

Dave

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:09 am

That's a shame Dave

Winter XC starts Jan 1st 2009

Dave Hume · Post by **Dave Hume** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:10 pm

John Wallis wrote:That's a shame Dave Winter XC starts Jan 1st 2009

So it's still officially summer then, until after christmas??

brian day · Post by **brian day** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:09 pm

So it's still officially summer then, until after christmas??

Will somebody tell the bl***y weather and the daylight this little fact that has been made the rule by the NHPC Comps organiser, then we could all be happy!

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:16 pm

So it's still officially summer then, until after christmas??

No but the agreed format was January to the end of November. December doesn't count then we start in January until the end of March for the winter XC league. This has been mentioned many times. If anyone can't make the meetings it might be worth getting on Brian's mailing list so the minutes can be sent to you then I wouldn't have to keep explaining this. If anyone thinks it's a good idea to change the format this will probably be a good time of year.

alan westmoreland · Post by **alan westmoreland** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:22 pm

Oh dear oh dear!!! i think i still remember the rule being 1 ridge run per day on the same hill however don't know if this still applies?

Saturday was brilliant for hang glidng, 4 or 5 ridge runs could havebeen done with ease, taking into account that you have to land and take off again after two cups of tea of course

There is still plenty of time to log further flights so i wouldn't worry to much.

Misk · Post by **Misk** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:25 pm

Alan's sounding confident.................

Should there be bonus km for top landings???????

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:33 pm

you get double points bonus for attempted landing on both horden and crimden then double again for safe beech landings. its after you land when the problems start

all we need is a good xfell day and some bigger gonads

cheers gary

Post by **colin keightley** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:52 pm

I heard about your post landing antics Gary

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:59 pm

the strange thing was i had more fun flying around crimdon end s in off and trying to judge heights to come in and land. not like me to give in so easily but i remember the words of wisdom off my instructor. if you dont land and your third atempt go and bottom land that is if it safer to do so.

cheers gary

Dave Hume · Post by **Dave Hume** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:42 pm

gary stenhouse wrote:... i remember the words of wisdom off my instructor. if you dont land and your third atempt go and bottom land that is if it safer to do so.

cheers gary

...and the other golden rule is if you can't top land at Horden go and top land at Crimdon as it is safer to do so (and also cheaper on uprights!)

Post by **colin keightley** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:25 pm

and leading edges too dave

ron freeman · Post by **ron freeman** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:13 pm

Hordon can be a bit rough at times when toplanding a hangglider so bottom landing at Hordon is OK as long as you choose the correct approach.

First thing to do is to decide which way to approach, should I come in from the south side or the north side ? this depends on the wind direction ! Iv'e flown Hordon for many years and its very rarely smack on the ridge.

lets say the wind is off to the north so the first thing to do is lose your high at the south side near the take off area. Fly out over the waters edge gradually losing height by pulling speed, you should be below take off now !

Then make a 45° left turn (down wind) losing height followed by a right turn back into wind (make sure your not too high to prevent over shooting the landing area - beware of the 4 ft drop onto beach !)

Same approach if the wind is off to the south, you would come in from the north side.

This technique will give you plenty off room to land into wind.

The gully on the south side of take off - there is a path which allows you to carry back up with a rigged glider, be careful though it gets very windy in there.

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:03 pm

lets say the wind is off to the north so the first thing to do is lose your high at the south side near the take off area. Fly out over the waters edge gradually losing height by pulling speed, you should be below take off now !

Then make a 45° left turn (down wind) losing height followed by a right turn back into wind (make sure your not too high to prevent over shooting the landing area -

I'm not trying to be pedantic here but in case novice pilots are reading every word it needs to be right or clarified.

I think you have probably only got your turns mixed up.

If the wind is off to the north and you fly towards the water you would turn "Right" down wind then "Left" back into wind before landing on the beach?

I apologise if I'm misreading it.

JW

ron freeman · Post by **ron freeman** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:58 pm

If the wind is off to the north and you turn right ! that would leave a long left hand turn back into wind !!! this is not a good idea when flying low to the ground...

With wind off to the north and you turn left first this means that you will be flying more of a cross wind approach toward the cliff (good) then the right turn back into wind (low to the ground) will be much safer.

ron freeman · Post by **ron freeman** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:50 pm

Hordon bottom landing