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Seen it, and the wife (none flyer) said "are they not supposed to be landing to give the helicopter room"
We came across very bad, I might be wrong but site was down south, so the hill would have been full of poofters... I feel if the general public had of known that, it might not have come across so bad.
We came across very bad, I might be wrong but site was down south, so the hill would have been full of poofters... I feel if the general public had of known that, it might not have come across so bad.
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i do believe there was quite a few of our club members there that day. what made the day even worse, within an hour of that accident a paraglider pilot was fataly injured on the same site. i think if peolple realised the rotor these things cause then they would be more inclined to land. as ou know steve in annecy the helicopter was having to put is hooter on and yet there was still people flying above me.
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Poor show !
I remember the incident... I was on 'Wether fell' in the dales and some of our members were there with the Dales club ?
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Re: Poor show !
All pilots should know in an emergency everybody should land immediately and make the area safe...ron freeman wrote:I remember the incident... It was on 'Wether fell' in the dales and some of our members were there with the Dales club ?
Maximise your time & dosh do both Hanggliding & Paragliding 
It sets me thinking –how extraordinary it was that a film crew was there on this day to record this incident. I have been flying for along time, and have seen two incidents requiring helicopter when the flyers realized helicopter was arriving they all landed
Immediately.
We can only assume that not all the flyers were aware that a rescue helicopter was on is way.
My granny used to say to me that there was more than one way to hang a duck, and as most of you know the authorities do not want “Free” flyers in the sky in the UK, so if they want to show us in bad light to the general public –then this is the way to do it for them.
By there hangs a Tale??????
But more importantly I am delighted to have been told that the pilot has made a full recovery from his accident.
RonDon.
Immediately.
We can only assume that not all the flyers were aware that a rescue helicopter was on is way.
My granny used to say to me that there was more than one way to hang a duck, and as most of you know the authorities do not want “Free” flyers in the sky in the UK, so if they want to show us in bad light to the general public –then this is the way to do it for them.
By there hangs a Tale??????
But more importantly I am delighted to have been told that the pilot has made a full recovery from his accident.
RonDon.
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A couple of years ago a paraglider landed close to me and broke his ankle and a helicopter came to pick him up. We had a running commentary on the radio from pilots sat further up the hill, with two groups or mountain rescuers coming from different sides of the hill racing the helicopter. I was impressed by the helicopter flying right to us, in a straight line from as soon as I could see him. Just before the heli pilot left us he asked who's idea it was to lay the wings further up the hill (out of the way of the wash) in a huge H, it was a massive help. 
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And on this day!RonDon wrote:It sets me thinking –how extraordinary it was that a film crew was there on this day to record this incident. I have been flying for along time, and have seen two incidents requiring helicopter when the flyers realized helicopter was arriving they all landed
Immediately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_j1lrjzxCA
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Alex can you raise this isssue with the Dales club as it was on one of their sites and they need reminding of what to do in future! Maybe a word with their safety officers? As this went out nation wide it doesn't look good for the Dales club in my opinion. Im sure we'll here more about this in Skywings in the future!
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Been there on Wether Fell - just got up in a car for a re-launch.
When I got there, the PG was already down, and a few HGs were still staying up, but I think they HAVE landed before the heli has arrived.
Heli pilot took a picture of his landing spot on the slope before leaving - rotor blades have been THAT close to the grass!
Sorry about the PG pilot...
BTW the spot where the PG fell - I just DIDN'T THINK of soaring there when I flew. He fell well to the left of take-off, and the wind was crossing from the left. For those who haven't been at Wether Fell, there is a ridge in front, and it is much nearer on the left hand side. Would expect some rough air over there... Haven't seen his fall though.
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When I got there, the PG was already down, and a few HGs were still staying up, but I think they HAVE landed before the heli has arrived.
Heli pilot took a picture of his landing spot on the slope before leaving - rotor blades have been THAT close to the grass!
Sorry about the PG pilot...
BTW the spot where the PG fell - I just DIDN'T THINK of soaring there when I flew. He fell well to the left of take-off, and the wind was crossing from the left. For those who haven't been at Wether Fell, there is a ridge in front, and it is much nearer on the left hand side. Would expect some rough air over there... Haven't seen his fall though.
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You are talking about two sepperate incidents on the same day,The first incident was the hang glider whose accident was not on the hill but down in the valley as he tried to find a landing spot,I can only assume that most people flying did not have any idea what was happening and attempts to contact them failed.
I arrived just after the incident and was setting up for take off when the second accident occured.The same people were flying but the air was cleared for the arrival of the helicopter.We followed procedure,there were three of us with the pilot,one gave Basic first aid and took control over the situation,the other two removed the wing to prevent dragging,contacted the emergency services with as much info as poss. marked the area with wings and cleared the air , most people came straight down with exception of a couple of stragglers who did land before the helicopter arrived.
It is a long proccess of actually getting the chopper there even though you plead for immediate heli assistance an ambulance comes first see s the scenario and then asks for helicopter,in which in my oppinion that wasted time could be what cost poor Simon his life.
Everyone stayed down until the chopper left ,which was a conciderable time.It seems very unfortunate that the television where present at the first incident and not a hour later because you would have seen a totally different response from those same pilots that looked so irresponsible to the viewers.
I arrived just after the incident and was setting up for take off when the second accident occured.The same people were flying but the air was cleared for the arrival of the helicopter.We followed procedure,there were three of us with the pilot,one gave Basic first aid and took control over the situation,the other two removed the wing to prevent dragging,contacted the emergency services with as much info as poss. marked the area with wings and cleared the air , most people came straight down with exception of a couple of stragglers who did land before the helicopter arrived.
It is a long proccess of actually getting the chopper there even though you plead for immediate heli assistance an ambulance comes first see s the scenario and then asks for helicopter,in which in my oppinion that wasted time could be what cost poor Simon his life.
Everyone stayed down until the chopper left ,which was a conciderable time.It seems very unfortunate that the television where present at the first incident and not a hour later because you would have seen a totally different response from those same pilots that looked so irresponsible to the viewers.
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On that day I was flying during the helicopter filming. An ambulance turned up first and drove across the fields in the valley. It was not apparent from the air that a hang glider had crashed. Some considerable time later a helicopter landed on the top of the hill opposite. Then it took off and flew below us and well in front up and down the valley. then it top landed again. we all moved away from the area towards the end of the ridge. It was then that the air ambulance appeared very low and in the bottom of the valley well away from the group who were flying. I can only assume that some good camera angles and fancy editing created an illusion of Para-gliders hampering a rescue. Every one landed before the air ambulance took off. The ambulance remained in the field for an other hour. When it drove up the hill and the paramedics ran over to the Para glider. All who were flying landed. A different air ambulance and the fire brigade assisted the para glider. together with all on the hill.
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