Winter Objectives

Sad Northerner · Post by **Sad Northerner** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:01 pm

Hi All

With the long winter nights and limited thermal activity approaching it may be an opportunity to get some things done.

I've got three Pilot papers waiting for people to do and two Advance Pilot papers. Can we agree to complete these in November maybe on a night separate from the club night?

Also, the club needs more Coach rated pilots. Would people be interested in doing a coaching course with the BHPA if I can organise something. Bare in mind that you don't need to be a ace pilot you just need to know your level and coach/advise lesser able pilots to that level.

Any interest?

Ali

skysteve · Post by **skysteve** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:08 pm

I'm keen to do the AP exam if it can be mid/late November

Got things on early November I think

Brian Nellist · Post by **Brian Nellist** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:50 pm

Hi Ali.
November sounds good to me,I'd better start revising

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:33 pm

got a deal someone do my exam and I will do the flying part

it would be good to do the advanced pilot exam and become a advanced pilot so that if one day I decide to do comps I am ready to go

bill-scott · Post by **bill-scott** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:46 pm

Hi Ali I had thought about doing the AP exam myself I have done most of the tasks needed but it seems that for tasks 11,12,13 you need to have done a SIV course

http://www.bhpa.co.uk/pdf/advanced_pilot_tasks.pdf

† NOTE: Exercises 11,12 and 13 are all to be carried out over water with a recovery boat in
attendance and with the pilot wearing a buoyancy aid and emergency parachute (as per BHPA
SIV Fact Sheet)

would like to progress in the sport to AP but cant justify the expense of a SIV course

berow · Post by **berow** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:38 am

Derwent water, I have a canoe and a life jacket.......SORTED.

Post by **colin keightley** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:15 am

Im intrested in pilot exam ali.

As an observation new pilots seem to attach themselves to people who dont talk cross country. I think Brian Nellist would make an excellent club coach as he always has time for the new pilots and the new pilots seem to fit in well with him.

Post by **chrisfozz** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:44 am

I'd like to get AP but am in the same boat as Bill, does anyone know of a course where you can just do the stall, spin and decent bits, I don't particularly want to do a full siv.

On gary's point - i'm sure I read somewhere you only need pilot raiting now to do the british championships.

brian day · Post by **brian day** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:48 am

Same as Chris n Bill, got a few surfboards we could leave lying around in the water and a bouyancy aid but I think it's about 20 years since it's been used, maybe a bit useless by now?

Post by **colin keightley** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:12 am

MURAT at sky sports olu deniz does day rate siv and covers the particular things you want, dont know how you would go about getting signed off though

AngusB · Post by **AngusB** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:48 am

I have done most of the criteria on the flying side to apply for the pilot rating but need more information regarding the more theoretical side to flying.
is there anywhere online or any books with the theoretical questions likely to be asked for the pilot exam so I can learn & test myself?

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:53 pm

I bought Jockys video a few weeks back and it's great reference material. He obviously states it's not a do it yourself SIV course but it does go through all the things mentioned in the posts above. Plus it's good to watch what actually happens when doing the moves what can go wrong

and how to recover. I think it's well worth the investment.

If you can get a boat on Derwent Water and take off Walla Crags or Cat Bells we could sell tickets for the club funds it will be well worth watching

Post by **colin keightley** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:04 pm

Buttermere would be ideal

Post by **colin keightley** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:05 pm

2 copies of security in flight 2 will be up for sale at the club auction might i add courtesy of Jocky Sanderson

berow · Post by **berow** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:07 pm

Angus talk to Ali but post your e mail here and I will send you some study notes and mock exams.

bill-scott · Post by **bill-scott** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:16 pm

I wonder if something could be organised in the lakes if a few of us got together for the stall and rapid decent

AngusB · Post by **AngusB** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:32 am

Cheers Brian! Head down, see you after winter

Post by **colin keightley** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:28 am

Just a word of warning a lot of these new 3 line gliders dont act naturally when collapses are induced as the a's are not as far forward as a normal glider, not quite sure if B stall would still be the same.

Ozone test pilot Russell Ogden told me that when they were testing the new gliders for EN they had to attach lines to the leading edge of the canopies to produce a much more natural frontal, as things seriously went to s@:t without them.

skysteve · Post by **skysteve** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:33 pm

colin keightley wrote:Just a word of warning a lot of these new 3 line gliders dont act naturally when collapses are induced as the a's are not as far forward as a normal glider, not quite sure if B stall would still be the same.

Ozone test pilot Russell Ogden told me that when they were testing the new gliders for EN they had to attach lines to the leading edge of the canopies to produce a much more natural frontal, as things seriously went to s@:t without them.

If you read the details on the delta 2 (I'm assuming it's the same for other similar wings) you can do everything except speedbar full frontal collapses on an SIV course.

The only thing to note really with the newer ribbed gliders is if you get a full frontal, rather than going to "hands up" it's advised you slam on the breaks. I had a nice big full frontal the other week coming out of a thermal, slammed the breaks on and it was all over within < 2 seconds (video).

Well worth a watch is Russel Ogden talking about collapses on modern gliders and other things paragliding related here

skysteve · Post by **skysteve** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:00 pm

Any news on a date for exams?

Cheers
Steve

Trevor Robinson · Post by **Trevor Robinson** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:39 pm

Peggy here again, Peggy, Peggy Mitchell, you know bwassy blonde, well diamond geezer Twev 'e wants to do that exam thing as well, weckons 'es done all them ducking and diving flying test things and can sharpen 'is pencil for a witten test.
'e wouldn't mind some of that stuff from the video bloke ( 'e asked me to do some video stuff but I don't do that sort of thing no more) and who ever has that test paper better send 'im the answers beforehand! My Gwant and Phil are still well'andy and know where your gaff is
ta ta then
peggy

Post by **chrisfozz** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:09 pm

these are a few years old now but I think most will still be relevant.

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:56 pm

http://www.skysports-turkey.com/index.html#/siv

About £90.00 ??

Sad Northerner · Post by **Sad Northerner** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:11 pm

Congratulation to Eddie, Helen and the Caretaker (Bryan N) for gaining their pilot rating and each scoring in the 90's on their exam!!

Well done

Ali

John Wallis · Post by **John Wallis** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:58 pm

Brillaint! Well done.

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:00 pm

nice one well done

Brian Nellist · Post by **Brian Nellist** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:12 pm

thanks guys & a Big thanks to Ali for taking time out & getting the exam papers & making it all happen

Helen Hurst · Post by **Helen Hurst** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:53 pm

Thank you from me and Eddie. And a special thank you to Ali. Phew, what a relief, the reading and revision paid off.

Trevor Robinson · Post by **Trevor Robinson** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:33 pm

Whens the next exam Ali? I now feel an intellectual ameoba

Post by **gary stenhouse** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:42 pm

get down to 75kg start 80.5kg now under 77 and 14 % body fat problem is will be only 10% body fat to get to 75kg so a lot of hunger. still I have to do something to keep my goals going as I aint getting any flying in.

cheers gary

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